Fast Tract Diet for SIBO Forum Heartburn and GERD Fats causing Heartburn

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  • Jaeme
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    Sorry for typos- using phone to enter today. About monolaurin, I have been drinking coconut milk mixed with kefir (about half and half, with a splash of cream) at almost every meal. Also cook with coconut oil or add to smoothie. So getting some momolaurin I guess. Have not tried the pure form- let us know if you try it.

    saffyhoward
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    Jaeme thankyou for the further info on rameron. It does sound good. Wow! 30 lbs is a lot of weight. I have lost 13 lbs but I was quite slim to start with and now am literally just skin and bones and it is causing me a lot of anxiety. had lost a lot prior to starting ft when I was still eating higher carb so not due to ketosis. The Zoloft is definitely increasing my appetite and this morning had to get up at 3 am and get something to eat. Had bowl of rice bubbles with water fp 7 I calculate. Still hungry when I woke this morning and even after another bowl of rice bubbles a slice of cheese and small slice of bacon I’m still hungry! Think I will be going over my fp limit today!
    Thanks also for commenting on monolaurin. Yes you would be getting a fair bit. I try to eat coconut oil but it doesn’t’ seem to agree with me so that’s why I’m nervous to try the lauricidin. I am also have trouble if I eat much fat so it’s so hard to get enough calories. My doctors tells me that I have to just eat and ignore the symptoms for a bit. Much easier said than done!!
    I really appreciate your reply. It’s so good to be able to communicate with people going/having gone through the same ordeal. Hope I can get some relief soon. Kind regards
    Saffy

    Jaeme
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    Hi Saffy- this forum has been a big help to all of us. Long story short, when I was first diagnosed with LPR about 6 months ago, I was put on the Dropping Acid diet and Zantac. My symptoms got much worse (no surprise according to Norm’s info). I had lost weight on that diet prior to the FT diet, all if which I did not need to lose, so I certainly understand your anxiety. I was very scared, as were my family & friends. I went to a nutritionist who was able to help me with some supplements, but after some improvement I stalled out. So finally from suggestion on this forum I found Remeron and it did the trick (just getting some sleep helps with healing). Now I wonder what will happen when I try to wean off Remeron…

    Kelly
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    Robray, do you have a link to that talk by Dr. Siebecker about bone broth? That might explain some of my current problems. Thanks.

    robray
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    The talk about Dr. Siebecker was part of the Leaky Gut program at SCD Lifestyle. You have to pay for it. I am trying to listen to all her talks on her website. If I find a free talk where she mentions it I will post it.

    saffyhoward
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    Hi Jaeame I hope you are still tuned to this forum as I want to say a big thankyou for your help. After suffering some terrible side effects from Zoloft I was a bit cautious about starting on another antidepressant but to cut a long story short I finally started on Remeron 7.5 mg about 10 days ago. At the same time I started to take Iberogast which was recommended to me by an acquaintance. Well I am happy to report that I’m feeling so much better. I have been sleeping well, have put on 6 lbs and am feeling my old self once again. In fact today I am actually symptom free for the first time in 6 months. I think both the Remeron and the Iberogast played a part in my recovery. As I was on the fast tract diet quite strictly for several weeks without any reduction in symptoms I don’t think that sibo was my problem. If you aren’t already symptom free it might be worth giving Iberogast a try if you haven’t already. Not expensive and can get over the counter at selected pharmacies and health food stores ( well here in Australai anyway) I have read that an Australian gastroenterologist did a study on its effectiveness and found it to be as effective as ppis without any of the side effects.
    Anyway thankyou very much once again and I hope that your health has continued to improve!
    Kind regards
    Saffy.

    Jaeme
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    Hi Saffy! So happy to hear you are doing so well! Thank you for the update and kind words, but thanks go to MChurch on this site for the Remeron suggestion. It started helping me the first night I took it, and I was greatly improved in just a week and a half. At 3 weeks I had put on most of my lost weight, as you said “felt like my old self”, and was virtually symptom free. Everyone commented on how much better I seemed, including the new doctor I had to switch to for the Remeron (previous Doc just kept suggesting Xanax & Ambien- boo!). New Doc actually suggested Remeron based on my situation before I said anything. At 6 weeks now, and I am even eating foods that were off the FT list and I need to cut back on food to avoid going overweight. I feel so good I worry about the time I get off of Remeron.

    I think my success is a combo of the FT diet, probiotics, enzymes, and the Remeron- but I really turned the corner with the Remeron. I have not heard of Iberogast- what does it do?

    Again, thank you for the good wishes and I send the same for your continued improvement!

    Sincerely – Jaeme 🙂

    saffyhoward
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    Hi Jaeme. Great to hear that you have improved so much…. Hope I can put on all my lost weight in 3 weeks!
    Iberogast is a herbal tincture indicated for the treatment of functional dyspepsia. It has been widely used in Europe for many years and after a study proving its efficacy it is now being recommended by some gastroenterologists.
    I have been able to tolerate it very well unlike many of the other things I tried such as enzymes, beta HCl etc. I think that it contains bitter herbs that work by stimulating the production of digestive juices and bile.
    Where would we be without the internet? !! My doctor ( who is a lovely man) and the couple specialists I have seen over the last 6 months have all been clueless.
    Best wishes
    Saffy

    Norm Robillard
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    Hi,
    Sorry that I haven’t been following these interesting posts on fat. One of the cornerstones of the Fast Tract Diet is the use of fats to make up some calories from reducing carbs (you can only increase proteins so much). The reason is that fats are not metabolized well by bacteria in the gut due to so little oxygen available so they should not contribute that much to SIBO.

    But there are a few situations where fats are problematic. One is the case where insufficient bile is being produced leading to fat malabsorption (symptoms: grey, sticky, stinky stools). The other is the point that Robray brought up referencing Dr. Allison Siebecker’s talk discussing the ability of SIBO bacteria to deconjugate bile acids. My strategy was to reduce bacterial load in the small intestine in hopes that this activity would also subside if it were occurring. But one other interim solution, also mentioned above, might be to reduce animal fats temporarily while adding coconut oil medium chain fatty acids. These MCTs don’t require bile for digestion and perhaps would not trigger more bile release (though I don’t know for sure if this is the case). I don’t know much about monolaurin that was referenced from Chris Kresser’s site, but that may be an option as well.

    heatherj
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    Hi Robray,

    Are you still having issues? I have been having problems with bone broth, too and I’ve been searching for information on it for months. I thought I was crazy, and that maybe it was something else in the ned, so I had some bone broth today, and it was clear that that was what I was reacting to. So I did more searching and read that bone broth contains free glutamines, which are supposed to be great for healing… in fact many people take L-glutamine as a supplement… but apparently the body turns glutamine into glutamate, and if you have a problem with MSG, (which I do!), then you could also have a sensitivity to glutamine. 🙁 I have not verified any of this information, I just saw it on various blog posts today. So I plan to continue researching this. But it is interesting.

    Also, I SWORE I had SIBO, because my symptoms were so very much a description of SIBO. But test results came back negative. I was actually depressed about this, because I was hoping to finally find a solution to all my troubles! I desperately asked the technicians where I took the test what else could it POSSIBLY be and they said the symptoms of Fructose Malabsorption (FM) look a lot like SIBO. So took the Fructose Malabsorption test and it was clear that I had FM. So if you have FM, then all that fruit you were eating could undoubtedly cause you issues! (Not that every fruit is a problem with FM, but many are, and excessive amounts are, too).

    Anyway, I hope that helps. I’d be curious to know how you’re doing now.

    robray
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    I am still having issues. I did a course of Rifaximin and that did change things, but I still have SIBO symptoms if I eat a starch or a meat with a lot of GAGs or maybe glutamine. I retested for SIBO and I am very negative now, so my test doesn’t match my symptoms.

    We have thanksgiving in Canada earlier than you guys so I already experienced the big turkey dinner which is a major heartburn fest for me. Thanksgiving is usually the kick off for the winter season of pain that ends in an ulcerative colitis flare in Feb or March. Anyhow this year I was very careful eating only the breast meat of the turkey as I was trying to avoid the GAGs. I didn’t eat any of the jus (drippings) because I thought that might contain GAGs from the cartilage of the turkey. I still ended up with heartburn and feeling sick. Is this from the glutamine? I will definitely read up on it. I ate nothing that should have given me symptoms and then I did all again the next day with left overs just to make sure. 🙁

    I know I have bile malabsorption (SECHAT test). I think the course of Rifaximin killed off a bunch of SIBO that was deconjugating my bile. I was seeing greasy fatty stools before Rifaximin and now not so much. Instead, I am back to diarrhea (probably caused by bile getting in to the colin).

    I think for my situation Norm is right on with the idea to focus on eating the MCT fats and avoid the saturated fats to try to reduce bile production. I am going to throw in some herbal bile sequestrants too. I want to see if that stops my diarrhea, but long term I would like to understand why I am not absorbing the bile. I have had some very bad UC flare ups so I probably have permanent damage to the ileum (I know UC doesn’t effect the ileum, but the docs saw inflammation in there).

    If you get a chance watch Dr. Ruscio’s talk on the Digestion Sessions that Sean Croxton is putting on. It is awesome. He talks a lot about bile and it really resonated with me. The herbal bile sequestrants he mentions are boswellia, bee propolis and guggul. I am trying the boswellia as of yesterday so I can’t say if it works.

    I really feel like I am on the cusp of figuring out what the medical system couldn’t figure out for 40 years! I really appreciate Norm and all the others in this community that share the info and ideas that they work so hard to figure out. This is true health care.

    heatherj
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    Hi Robray, Keep at it, and I’m sure you’ll figure it out! Its a long process, though, isn’t it? I have read that SIBO tests are about 80% accurate so there is a 20% chance that you have SIBO even if the results come back negative. On the other hand, I do encourage you try Fructose Malabsorption test. Or try a low FODMAPs diet and see it helps. I hope the bile supplements work. Not to put a wrench in things (or to go against anything Norm says!) but coconut oil actually causes me inflammation (blasphemous, I know!). I only say that so you will take note of any adverse symptoms you might have after ingesting coconut oil. I have read in forums that other people have similar reactions to coconut oil, so I’m not the only crazy one out there. Why should a girl like me not be able to eat grains, dairy, fructose, bone broth or coconut oil? Well, I haven’t been able to figure that out yet. But hopefully I will one day. 🙂

    Good luck with the whole process and especially getting through the holidays. If it helps at all, we have a whole gluten-free, grain-free, dairy-free, low sugar (and still delicious!) holiday meal plan (from Thanksgiving to New Years) over at Stuffed Pepper. So if you’re hosting, maybe you will find inspiration and if you’re a guest, maybe you can bring something (?).

    Get better soon!

    ftder
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    I wish you luck and worry that the antibiotics disrupted your gut flora. I have seen this happen time and again so it will be a while for it to get back on track. (honestly, I don’t care what the western docs say about the safety of these antibiotics, I have seen them be very disruptive). Is it possible to get with a functional medicine doctor or naturopath with good clinical knowledge of how probiotics help digestion? Also, the soil based organisms probiotic that norm offers on this site is known to help with diarhea and constipation

    ftder
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    ALso did you consider consulting with Dr. Seibeker in Portland? She has treated so many SIBO cases she may know what to advise with follow up after antibiotic therapy.

    ftder
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    Coconut oil is a powerful anti-fungal/anti-microbial. On the heels of abx therapy I would not use it unless under care of really good holistic doc

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